Hi, SDoers:
I would like to know if some of you have any information regarding
modelling and simulation of the water management in a city. We in Mexico
just started working on that problem and would like to know otherss
results and perhaps to share experience (though we are at the very
initial stage).
Greetings to everyone,
K. Roman Sliwa
University of the Americas-Puebla
Mexico
kazik@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx
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John Barton and myself did some work on water management modelling and
presented a paper in 1996 Boston SD Conference. John has further detail
about the model. I suggest you send him an e-mail
John.Barton@BusEco.monash.edu.au
Purnendu Mandal
School of Engineering and Technology
Deakin University
662 Blackburn Road
Clayton VIC 3168
Phone (03) 9244 7362 Fax: (03)9244 7134
presented a paper in 1996 Boston SD Conference. John has further detail
about the model. I suggest you send him an e-mail
John.Barton@BusEco.monash.edu.au
Purnendu Mandal
School of Engineering and Technology
Deakin University
662 Blackburn Road
Clayton VIC 3168
Phone (03) 9244 7362 Fax: (03)9244 7134
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Let me add a few references to work on water management modeling.
Tony Picardi and I published following paper long time ago based on the
consulting work at Development Analysis Associates.
Picardi, A. C., and Saeed, K. 1979. Dynamics of Water Policy in
South-Western Saudi Arabia. Simulation. 33(4): 109-118.
Jin Lee, one of my former students, who is now on the faculty of Nanyang
Technical University, Singapore published following paper a few years ago:
Lee, Jin. 1993. A Formal approach to hydrological model conceptualization.
Hydrological Sciences Journal. 38(5): 391-401.
There also are examples of extended research on water resources in the work
on Susquehena River Basin in USA and Bicol River Basin in Philippines. The
Later project was conducted by Donald Drew at AIT in the 1970s.
Khalid
Khalid Saeed
Professor and Program Coordinator
Infrastructure Planning & Management Program
School of Civil Engineering
ASIAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
G.P.O. Box 2754, Bangkok, THAILAND
phones: (66-2)524-5681, (66-2)524-5785; fax: (66-2)524-5776
email saeed@ait.ac.th
Visit our program website at: http://www.ipm.ait.ac.th/
Tony Picardi and I published following paper long time ago based on the
consulting work at Development Analysis Associates.
Picardi, A. C., and Saeed, K. 1979. Dynamics of Water Policy in
South-Western Saudi Arabia. Simulation. 33(4): 109-118.
Jin Lee, one of my former students, who is now on the faculty of Nanyang
Technical University, Singapore published following paper a few years ago:
Lee, Jin. 1993. A Formal approach to hydrological model conceptualization.
Hydrological Sciences Journal. 38(5): 391-401.
There also are examples of extended research on water resources in the work
on Susquehena River Basin in USA and Bicol River Basin in Philippines. The
Later project was conducted by Donald Drew at AIT in the 1970s.
Khalid
Khalid Saeed
Professor and Program Coordinator
Infrastructure Planning & Management Program
School of Civil Engineering
ASIAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
G.P.O. Box 2754, Bangkok, THAILAND
phones: (66-2)524-5681, (66-2)524-5785; fax: (66-2)524-5776
email saeed@ait.ac.th
Visit our program website at: http://www.ipm.ait.ac.th/
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This is Andy Ford at WSU replying to the question about modeling and
simulation of water management from K. Roman Sliwa of the University of the
Americas-Puebla in Mexico.
A handful of System Dynamics practioneers are looking into water
resource issues. Yaman Barlas and his students at BogazicYi University in
Istanbul, for example, have been working this topic the past few years.
Another participant from the middle east region is Ziad Shawwash.
Shawwash built a System Dynamics model of the Jordanian water system. He
is completing his Ph.D. at the University of British Colombia. A short
description of his model appears in SYSTEM DYNAMICS 96,the proceedings of
the 1996 meeting in Cambridge.
Other recent examples of System Dynamics applications to water
resources are John Bartons policy model for a retail water company in
Australia and Tusy Adibrotos watershed management model for Java Island
in Indonesia. Both of these were presented at SYSTEM DYNAMICS 96.
Kathleen Truman, of the Environmental Studies Department at the
University of Nevada at Las Vegas, is working on water issues in the
American southwest, and she has extensive experience with agriculture and
natural resource issues in Mexico.
Here at WSU, my students and I have been using System Dynamics to study
water issues in three situations:
1. water supply and demand for the public utility in the City of Los
Angeles (the PhD topic for Hojun Sun),
2. using "management flight simulators" for group discussion/learning
about water use in the Snake River Basin (to be published in the next issue
of the SYSTEM DYNAMICS REVIEW), and
3. classroom use of a "management flight simulator" to allow students
to take the controls of a hypothetical western river called "The Idagon."
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Andy Ford
Program in Environmental Science and Regional Planning
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-4430
(509) 335-7846
FordA@mail.wsu.edu
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simulation of water management from K. Roman Sliwa of the University of the
Americas-Puebla in Mexico.
A handful of System Dynamics practioneers are looking into water
resource issues. Yaman Barlas and his students at BogazicYi University in
Istanbul, for example, have been working this topic the past few years.
Another participant from the middle east region is Ziad Shawwash.
Shawwash built a System Dynamics model of the Jordanian water system. He
is completing his Ph.D. at the University of British Colombia. A short
description of his model appears in SYSTEM DYNAMICS 96,the proceedings of
the 1996 meeting in Cambridge.
Other recent examples of System Dynamics applications to water
resources are John Bartons policy model for a retail water company in
Australia and Tusy Adibrotos watershed management model for Java Island
in Indonesia. Both of these were presented at SYSTEM DYNAMICS 96.
Kathleen Truman, of the Environmental Studies Department at the
University of Nevada at Las Vegas, is working on water issues in the
American southwest, and she has extensive experience with agriculture and
natural resource issues in Mexico.
Here at WSU, my students and I have been using System Dynamics to study
water issues in three situations:
1. water supply and demand for the public utility in the City of Los
Angeles (the PhD topic for Hojun Sun),
2. using "management flight simulators" for group discussion/learning
about water use in the Snake River Basin (to be published in the next issue
of the SYSTEM DYNAMICS REVIEW), and
3. classroom use of a "management flight simulator" to allow students
to take the controls of a hypothetical western river called "The Idagon."
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Andy Ford
Program in Environmental Science and Regional Planning
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-4430
(509) 335-7846
FordA@mail.wsu.edu
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Saeed mentions the Susquehena River Basin book on water
resources. It does not appear in the System Dynamics
Society bibliography, but the citation is:
Hamilton, H.R., et al., System Simulation for Regional
Analysis: An Application to River-Basin Planning. 1969,
Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. 407
The book contains the full model in DYNAMO notation. The
book is almost certainly out of print, but a copy might be
found somewhere.
Jay W. Forrester
jforestr@MIT.EDU
resources. It does not appear in the System Dynamics
Society bibliography, but the citation is:
Hamilton, H.R., et al., System Simulation for Regional
Analysis: An Application to River-Basin Planning. 1969,
Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. 407
The book contains the full model in DYNAMO notation. The
book is almost certainly out of print, but a copy might be
found somewhere.
Jay W. Forrester
jforestr@MIT.EDU