The time scale regarding when to use system dynamics
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2001 11:48 am
Two recent communications on this email list have suggested that
system dynamics is useful when the time scale of interest in months
or years, but that discrete simulation should be used if the time
scale of interest is in the range of hours or days.
I believe that the time scale of interest is not a guide to the use
of system dynamics.
Indeed, if one is operating the accounting department and shipping
procedures, one needs to work with specific discrete customer orders.
But if one moves back one or two steps to the questions of number of
employees and the nature of the facilities, and is interested in the
validity of the policies being followed in managing the flow of
orders, then one is in the realm of policy design and system dynamics.
To illustrate a short time scale for system dynamics modeling, two
doctoral students in our MIT Computer Science department created a
system dynamics model of what was happening in the electron cloud at
a transistor contact. Afterward they said it was the first time they
really understood what was happening. The time scale was in the
fractional micro-second range.
I have observed a tendency for beginners to believe that they should
deal with discrete items in a system when, for their purposes, they
would do much better to think of the stream of activity rather than
the items within the stream.
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Jay W. Forrester
Professor of Management
Sloan School
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Room E60-389
Cambridge, MA 02139
From: "Jay W. Forrester" <jforestr@MIT.EDU>
system dynamics is useful when the time scale of interest in months
or years, but that discrete simulation should be used if the time
scale of interest is in the range of hours or days.
I believe that the time scale of interest is not a guide to the use
of system dynamics.
Indeed, if one is operating the accounting department and shipping
procedures, one needs to work with specific discrete customer orders.
But if one moves back one or two steps to the questions of number of
employees and the nature of the facilities, and is interested in the
validity of the policies being followed in managing the flow of
orders, then one is in the realm of policy design and system dynamics.
To illustrate a short time scale for system dynamics modeling, two
doctoral students in our MIT Computer Science department created a
system dynamics model of what was happening in the electron cloud at
a transistor contact. Afterward they said it was the first time they
really understood what was happening. The time scale was in the
fractional micro-second range.
I have observed a tendency for beginners to believe that they should
deal with discrete items in a system when, for their purposes, they
would do much better to think of the stream of activity rather than
the items within the stream.
--
---------------------------------------------------------
Jay W. Forrester
Professor of Management
Sloan School
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Room E60-389
Cambridge, MA 02139
From: "Jay W. Forrester" <jforestr@MIT.EDU>